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    If it is antisemitic to simply describe what the soldiers are doing, then the actions themselves are antisemitic.

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      I wouldn’t call it antisemitic

      However, it is deeply disturbing and unethical and Israel is desperately covering up by any means necessary

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        Well, maybe in the original meaning of the word. Most Palestinians do speak a Semitic language. The word usually now mean anti-jewish though.

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          These days it seems to mean anti what ever views Israel wants you to have

          It has been so watered down it isn’t even funny

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    “I am jewish and did terrible things”

    “Fuckin jew hater! He wants to kill all jews!”

    That makes sense right?

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    Wow, the “that’s antisemitic” saying really is an all encompassing get out of jail free card.

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      I feel so bad for any Jewish people who don’t support this shit. There’s gonna be multiple generations of actual antisemitism spawned by Israel’s actions and the fact that the American deep state is obsessed with supporting them.

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    No, you know what’s anti-semitic? Defiling your ancestors by being a fucking genocidal Nazi.

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    It’s just a common religious tactic. When they do bad things, they get angry at anyone who tried to call them out on it. Even if it’s their own people, and they aren’t doing it on purpose. Is the hate being supported by their religion? Yes? Then it’s religious hate, and needs to be stopped.

    Does it matter if it’s one religion? Nope, they all do this shit. Radical christians, radical hindu, radical buddhists, etc… Call them out on their bullshit and hate, and you’re the bigot. Well, fuck religion and the hate they all spew.

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      I’m not an expert in their religion but I doubt their religion says that committing genocide and all kinds of war crime atrocities is a good thing.

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        They’re Zionists, this is actually a core part of the end goals outlined in every Abrahamic religion, they are literally hoping to destroy all the non children of god and take over the world. We’re all just Canaanites to them if we’re not on their team.

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    Why are none of these evil dictators just dying of a heart attack already?!? Let’s gooo!

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        If there was a god, the “chosen people” wouldn’t need an Iron Dome, just clasped hands, and they certainly wouldn’t need hospitals paid on the American dime.

        The loudest proponents of faith always need some kind of non-faith based material resource, strangely enough.

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    Well I would argue Netanyahu is the head anti-semitist since by over using this word he has destroyed any weight that it carries. It now has effectively become a joke.

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      I think he’s antisemitic because he’s carrying atrocities against Semitic people. Arabs are Semitic people.

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        The real irony of all this is that the people being genocides right now in Gaza have a much closer genetic relationship to the actual human beings who wrote the Torah than those who are genociding them. We’re watching the actual descendents of the ancient Israelites being exterminated right now.

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      I think I get where you’re going, but don’t even go there. Nothing could ever justify any genocide; not the Holocaust, and not the Gaza one. The idea that anything could is frankly, grotesque.

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      I get what you’re trying to say but let’s not go down that path. Genocide isn’t justified no matter the circumstances.

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      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_antisemitism

      Zionist antisemitism or antisemitic Zionism refers to a phenomenon in which antisemites express support for Zionism and the State of Israel. In some cases, this support may be promoted for explicitly antisemitic reasons. Historically, this type of antisemitism has been most notable among Christian Zionists, who may perpetrate religious antisemitism while being outspoken in their support for Jewish sovereignty in Israel due to their interpretation of Christian eschatology. Similarly, people who identify with the political far-right, particularly in Europe and the United States, may support the Zionist movement because they seek to expel Jews from their countries and see Zionism as the least complicated method (vis-à-vis ethnic cleansing or genocide) of achieving this goal and satisfying their racial antisemitism.

      The French-Jewish journalist Alain Gresh noted that the antisemitic right-wing politician and Nazi collaborator Xavier Vallat said that "Jews would never integrate into France and that they had to go to Israel.

      The historian David N. Myers wrote that “Leading white nationalists such as Richard Spencer and Jared Taylor liken their movement to Zionism, seeing it as a model for the kind of monoethnic purity they favor in [the United States].” Myers states that the “combination of pro-Israel and antisemitic sensibilities” is common within American politics due to the combined influences of the “Christian evangelical Right with its end-game theology”, “archly conservative” Catholics, and the political ideology of Donald Trump.

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        If you generalize the stance away from Jews, “foreigners should go back to their home countries” is a very popular talking point for right-wing politicians, right-wing extremists and nazis.

        So it’s quite beyond me that anyone would be surprised that they apply the exact same argument to Jews as they use for pretty much every other minority that has a country that they can send them back to.

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          they apply the exact same argument to Jews as they use for pretty much every other minority

          I think the glaring note is how they consider “Jew” a minority, despite largely being white.

          Who does and doesn’t qualify as white is a constantly moving goalpost, depending on the attitudes of the current regime.

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            Any group that can be grouped together into a small group is a minority. Don’t have to have a separate skin colour for that.

            Polish people in Germany are a minority. Turkish people in Austria are a minority. Protestants are a minority in the Republic of Ireland. Gay and trans people are a minority.

            The defining factors of a minority in regards to this kind of debates are:

            • It’s a category that can be used to group people together. The group doesn’t have to be internally consistent but are lumped into this group from the outside (e.g. all “foreigners” can be lumped into one group, even though these people are from all sorts of different countries and backgrounds and might not even interact with each other all that much. Like, for example, a white Nazi from Russia is just as much a foreigner as a black hippie from Ghana, even though these two people really have nothing in common.)
            • The resulting group is smaller than the majority group.
            • Resulting from these facts, the larger majority has the political power to govern the minority group via laws and executive even against the will of the minority group (and often without even understanding the minority group)
            • And resulting from that fact, there needs to be some kind of protection against misgovernment against that minority group that isn’t large enough to effect actual political change themselves.
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    He’s really milking it…

    Kinda reminds me of Stalin. That too was a man driven by hate.

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